Review the values associated with the Industrial Cultural Matrix and then consider the following two questions:
1. Do you think it a natural (or, perhaps more accurately, a logical) progression to move from the ideas of the Englightenment and the values associated with Critical Thinking to the ideas and practices of the Industrial CM and the values associated with Progress? Why or why not?
2. Do you see any of the values associated with Progress (both those that support and those that oppose it) in our contemporary culture? Be as specific as you can with your examples.
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I wouldn't say it is not logical to move from the values of Enlightenment to the values of the Industrial CM. Though it is different to move from the notions of the scientific method and critical thinking, to the notions of progreesion and political rights. I would say it is like moving from your old neighborhood to a new neighborhood, though it is different and you might feel awkward you would have to try to settle in there and make the best out of it. That's how I view the transition of the Enlightenment period to the Industrial period.
ReplyDeleteIn the context of the values of the Industrial period, I would say the growth of science and economy is still seen in today's culture. There's always some new scientific procedure that's developed to cure some ailment. Also, democracy and technology is still seen in contemporary culture. I mean every month there's a new advancement in technology ranging from computers to cell phones. The idea of democracy still thrives today, the United States promotes democracy for several several years because it makes things happen (politics).
Well, I just think that like everything else in life the movement from, "theEnlightenment and the values associated with Critical Thinking to the ideas and practices of the Industrial CM and the values associated with Progress," was a natural happening and at that time it was probably the best direction for things to move. And as far as, me seeing any values related to progress I would have to say that overall, the idea of progress seems to have moved through politics and religion expanding their horizons and reaching out through progress into new categories. ?? But then again this is all just my understanding of the question... and I feel I might be wrong??
ReplyDeleteI think that it was a natural logical move to go from the Enlightenment to the Industrial Cultural Matrix. It makes sense that integrating values, critical thinking and progress, may have something in common. In the enlightenment era their integrating value was critical thinking, and with that critical thinking it probably led them to think about progress. I think they are closely related because one of the values associated with the Enlightenment is Freedom, and freedom led to the values associated with the Industrial CM the values like protest, sentimentality, power, superiority, and imagination.
ReplyDeleteI do see some of the values associated with Progress in our contemporary culture. Under influence I see the values of power everyone wants power at one point in their life. I think materialism is one of the values that continue to grow in our culture. Wealth, we all want wealth as a form of security. I think that wealth is related with superiority, the more wealth you have the more superior people think you are. Under progress there is the value of change, I think people in our culture still want change.
Absolutely i believe it made sense to move from the ideas associated with Enlightment and values that expanded critical thinking. Then shifting to the ideas of the Industrial matrix. I believe it more so progression than a switch because i believe the ideals go hand-in hand. Our whole culture is predicated in progress. Who has the most? In work you really don't work with other employers you compete to be the best. When people go to school it is not just about learnoing most people go there for the sole purpose of progressing or moving up on the corporate ladder.
ReplyDeleteI think that it was natural to move from the ideas of the Enlightenment and the values associated with critical thinking to the ideas of the industrial CM and the values associated with Progress because they had to have started some where. I believe they were looking at the Enlightenment values to come up with the Industrial values, but the industrial values go more in detail. In the enlightenment era the values were scientific method and Freedom. The industrial carries the same idea but it is expanded a little more example is the value of freedom. They have the freedom to protest, escapism, imagination and so on.
ReplyDeleteYes I do see the values of Progress in our contemporary culture. I see materialism, we all want things we can’t have. We greed other people because they have what we can’t have, and if we do have it, we want more. I also see wealth; everyone in the world wants wealth. We also want power; we want to be in control. A big progress values I see is change, we as people love change. Change to us is good. I believe this is a big reason why many of us voted for Obama. (We at least I did. I have other reasons to.) And with is said that we were I see influence in today’s society. We are all influenced in many ways, if it the way we think, talk, dresses, act, who we hang out with. (In my opinion this is what I see.)
I agree with Karla on the basis that it was only logical to move from the values of the Enlightenment to the values of the Industrial CM. I do believe there is some realtion between these two periods because one set of values became the catalysis to the other set of values. Just like Karla stated that freedom led to protest and imagination, having that freedom in life made it possible for people to expand what the were feeling and wanting to change. In addition to that, I agree with Karla that, the value of change is still seen in today's society.
ReplyDeleteI definetly agree with Lisa! I absolutely understand what she is saying and it is dawning upon me...why didn't I see it that way before? She says, "I see materialism, we all want things we can’t have. We greed other people because they have what we can’t have, and if we do have it, we want more. I also see wealth; everyone in the world wants wealth. We also want power; we want to be in control," and all of this is a truely simple to understand because in some way small or big WE HAVE ALL BEEN HERE, and if you haven't well then YOU HAVE BEEN LIVING IN A CAVE because the world is very much so materialistic; and in no way am I saying it is a good thing but it is what it is. So yea, I totally agree with Lisa! Great way of looking at it. ;)
ReplyDeleteI agree with Karla Duque that the Enlightenment and industrial values are a natural happening and at that time it was probably the best direction for things to move. I think we all believe that the values of the enlightenment influenced the values of the industrial. I also agree with the idea of progress seems to have moved through politics and religion expanding their horizons and reaching out through progress into new categories. Which in the enlightenment it had to do with freedom.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Lisa. In the Enlightenment era there were fewer values and in the Industrial CM there was an expansion of values. I think they were indeed built up from the Enlightenment times. I also agree with Lisa in the fact that people took freedom and expanded it even more during the Industrial CM. I do agree that in our culture most of us want change, and we tend to base our decisions and actions on change and Lisa gave a great example of that by bringing up the Obama election.
ReplyDeleteI think it was very intriguing for Karla to say that she felt the values of progress have shifted most exclusively to religion and politics. I would have to agree because nowadays it almost feels like we can't do anything unless goverment intervenes. like the 798b stimulus package released yesterday. Also religion or religious tolerance seems to inflence everyhing; for example, when saying the pledge of allegiance alot schools don't allow the use of the phrase under God. I understand allowing everyone to feel comftorable, but would other countries do tthis for others?
ReplyDeleteAt first it was difficult to understand the shift of values from the Enlightenment CM to the Industrial CM. But, after analyzing the values of both eras I was able to understand that the change wasn’t unusual, but a normal transition. The Enlightenment CM was concerned with the value of critical thinking. Along with critical thinking came an appreciation for freedom. The concept of freedom incorporated the belief of individual self-interest and selfishness for those who focused on economic activities. This same behavior was seen in the values of the Industrial CM. During the Industrial CM society was seen as a machine, which could be improved by science and technology. At that time society was concerned about industries and the economy. Therefore, people began to value progress. And progress contained the values of size, power, materialism, and wealth. As a result of these values, European nations felt they could use their superior economic and military power to rule other parts of the world to their advantage. I believe that some values of the Industrial CM are still noticeable in today’s culture. For example, the belief that science and technology can benefit society is still respected. Scientific research helps us develop and discover new medicines and cures for illnesses. In addition, technology makes our lives easier. We can e-mail each other instead of writing letters that take a long time to arrive through regular mail. Therefore, I think science and technology continue to benefit society like they did during the Industrial CM.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Kimesha in that the growth of science and technology can still be seen today. This ties in with the idea of progress from the Industrial Era completely. Education has improved hugely as a result of technological advancement and so has efficiency.
ReplyDeleteI think it was a natural shift between values because Critical Thinking can in fact lead to Progress, depending on what people are thinking about. Critical Thinking, I believe is a step to progress, although maybe some things were very different on how those values were carried out. I didn't fully agree with either of those values but I do believe they were important in the intellectual and physical expansion of society.
ReplyDeleteIn contemporary culture, I do see some values associated with progress. There are still those that are considered the elite in business and there are still members of the working class, many of them exploited by big industries. Especially foreign workers are having to deal with low wages and long hours.
I find it interesting that everybody saw it as a natural progression from the values of the Enlightenment to the Industrial Cultural Matrix. I like how Kimesha B gives examples of the different aspects of the values existent in contemporary society.
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