Friday, March 13, 2009

Is Freud Valid?

As a reminder, the first post for this prompt is not due until 3/24.  I hope you all have a restful Spring Break.

When we discuss the ideas of Sigmund Freud, we tend to focus on his quite controversial ideas about sexuality.  He does, however, have some valid points about how the mind works.  What connections can you make between his ideas about the validity of dreams as ways to understand the self and the values of the WWICM?  

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  2. Personally, I think dreams are very complex and in my life dreams have sometimes shadowed real life situations. In most cases, I think that dreams are the best way for our mind/emotions to become noticed in a confusing and yet, insightful way. For example, lets say I been stressing about h/w all day and I have a dream where I loose my h/w and then my best friend finds it. Well, my h/w is then a representation of my stressor and my best friend becomes the person whom I might see as my listener/helper OR my dream could have just meant nothing but, then of course Freud would not have agreed.
    And-as far as, the values of the WWICM go, I feel that in understanding dreams it's hard for me, to think of predictability, control, expertise, etc. unless we start assuming that peoples dreams are some kind of premonitions. (which i do believe in to a certain extent).

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  3. This one's a difficult question to answer. One connection I could make between Freud's ideas about dreams and values of the WWICM involves the idea that every individual has dreams, and those dreams are specific and special to that individual. Dreams, however, are influenced by the outside world, so in a sense, they are being controlled by the situations in the individual's life. I also think that dreams can be a freedom of expression, the dream-content being unrestricted. It may be cryptic but Freud believed that everything symbolized something else that people are not supposed to talk about while they are awake. There is a bit of predictability as to what some symbols stand for but there is also some uncertainty as to which meaning is to be interpreted since symbols have many different meanings.

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  4. Karla Duque,

    I think it is very interesting that your dreams have sometimes "shadowed real life situations". I'm sure that happens to most, if not all, of us. Freud was more concerned with sexual symbols than anything, so something we might see as totally innocent would probably be seen totally different by Freud. I think the homework story is interesting as well but I wonder how Freud would interpret such a dream? Would he still limit himself to his sexual symbols or is it possible that he could look past that and see something else that is probably more appropriate?

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  5. In some ways I do believe that dreams represent the elements that go on in our everyday lives. Though you can't fully rely on dreams to explain or predict anything they still have some percent of validity to them. I mean I still believe that when I dream about fishes then somebody I know is pregnant and I haven't been wrong since. Or I can have dreams about being late to school or work when I have some much to do and that stress manifests itself in my dreams into my biggest fears. But I terms of connecting the WW1CM with Freud's explanation on dreams I could say individuality and uncertainty are values present in dreams. Dreams can represent the individual and there is the uncertainty of where those dreams come from.

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  6. Some of Sigmund Freud's greates work was in the unconscious. Freud said that our minds preserve memories. That our dreams are filled with symblos and that they are very difficult to analyze. That we can derive insights into ourselves from studying the meaning of our dreams. He said that dreams are widh fulfillments and that these wishes were the result of repressed memories or bad experiences.

    A lot of dreams have validity and they help us understand ourselves. The values of Bureaucracy were control, expertise, conformity, certainty and predictability. By usin propaganda, Adolf Hitler was able to scare Germans into joining the Germany army. Hitler preached that Germany was in a struggle for their existence and that If the Germans didn't fight, that they would loose everything they had. Hitler was a genius at using propaganda (language) to plant ideas like using any and every kind of weapon necessary to end the war as soon as possible. He made Germans believe that Germany would be victorious.

    Dreams, in my opinion, are our emotions and ideas trying to tell us something and anxiety surrounding our desires turn some dreams into nightmares.

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  7. Dreams are situations that we have or will face in everyday life. Many dreams are influenced by the media, (TV, Movies, and News). I most of my dreams are nightmares, that someone is chasing me with a knife trying to kill me. These nightmares are influenced by scary/horror movies, we watch for our enjoyment. I believe the values are uncertainty, control and sometimes it can be conformity. Its uncertainty because we are uncertain of what are dream is telling us or sometimes we can remember our dream. I many of us have had a dream (good/ bad) and we can’t remember what it was about we just know that is either a good or bad dream. I believe it is control because many events in our life or the media have influenced it in one way or another. I think it can also be conformity because we content with our dream because we try to control our dreams to make us happy.

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  8. I believe that Freud and the values in the ww1cm do have some similarities. I think that the value of individuality is connected to freud's interpretation of dreams. In that all dreams have meaning and that they are usually directly linked to something going on in a persons life, or their mood at the time. I know when i dont have stress in my life my dreams are tranquil. It hard to interpret dreams sometimes though because i have been told if you cry in a dream good things are about to happen. go-figure. So, i guess the the value of uncertainty woukld realate too.

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  9. I think Freud's interpretation of dreams correspond more to organic values than to mechanistic values. In a dream the mind experiences freedom like it wouldn't in the controlled environment of the real world, both controlled by society and by one's personal ethics and values. With this freedom the mind tends to produce strange images or scenes that are met with some uncertainty when the dreamer tries to interpret his or her dream. These visions are not predictable because one would usually not imagine things like that in the aforementioned controlled environment.

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  10. Kimesha's statement about stress manifesting itself into dreams seems plausible, for I often find that when I procrastinate on a really important assignment (to the point of waiting until the morning before it is due to actually get started)I cannot sleep well during the night and when I do sleep, I dream about waking up late and missing the due date. This results in me waking up periodically after short intervals. When I do manage to complete my assignments before I go to sleep, I usually have good dreams or dreams that are insignificant enough for me to forget them the next morning. Therefore, like Claudia also said, dreams must be influenced by the events in our lives.

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  12. I agree with Kene, that dreams are organic values than mechanistic values. Dreams are controlled by the society and with one’s own ethics and values. I understand what Kene is saying about dreams being the values of freedom. But it makes me wonder if dreams really associated with the value of freedom, because I believe that dreams are controlled by the society and ones own ethics and values. But can it be both control and at the same time freedom? I totally understand what you’re talking about. I get it but, it’s just a little confusing. (In my opinion.)

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  13. When I think of Freud I always think about all his theories with dreams, and how he related most of his theories with sex. To some point I think Freud had good ideas. Like the values in the WWICM he had the freedom. In his case I think it was the freedom of expression. Freud could think of something and express it any way he wanted. There were also some values of predictability, because Freud had a system already built up. He had meanings to certain things, and I think he was able to predict a lot of outcomes that came from the dreams.

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  14. I agree with Claudia in the opinion that dreams are a freedom of expression, and dreams are really not restricted to anything. No matter how much a person wants to dream something they probably will not dream what they want. Freedom was an important value in the WWICM. I also agree with Lisa because the value of uncertainty also is very important when it comes to dreams. It has happened to me, and you begin to wonder if the dream will come true or not. I think there is some truth to the fact that our dreams are controlled by the media or things we see, and I think Freud had a theory about this as well.

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  15. I found what Ahmad said about the value of individuality connected to dreams to be useful.Dreams represent what a particulat individual is going through. The elements of a dream sometimes pertain to what is going on in that individual's life. I also found what Kene said about the organic values being mostly connected to Freud's interpretation of dreams. Because dreams express freedom and individuality. Also, that value of uncertainty is expressed in dreams because we don't know what the meaning and origin of that dream.

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  16. I agree with Karla’s statement that it is difficult to understand and analyze dreams for values, such as predictability and control, from the World War 1 Cultural Matrix. If we analyze our dreams, then we must believe that they have some foundation in truth. I believe that dreams are a way for our unconsciousness to communicate unexpressed emotions we have within us. Therefore, I also believe that some of Freud’s interpretations of dreams are valid. I understand that in some scenarios a dream may represent wishes that have not been fulfilled. Furthermore, dreams can also be a sort of premonition. Since our dreams gather symbols from things we have seen throughout the day or things that are stored in our memory, they must have some truth in them. However, sometimes even though we can distinguish symbols in our dreams, their meaning is abstract. It is difficult to correctly analyze dreams because symbols can have a variety of interpretations depending on the scenario.

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